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> Gov: “Here is our wallet blacklist feed. If you transact with these wallets, you go to jail.”

Me: "I'm already in Africa, find me, losers"

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"Hi, I'm in Africa hiding from the USG and my wallet is on the FBI blacklist. Can I buy a phillips screwdriver?"

"No thanks. We're in America and have $20M of assets and 50 employees and we'd rather not lose it all and go to jail."

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If the entire world will bend under US regulations and will respect their white-lists and black-lists, it might be an issue. But that means losing independence (because surely US won't respect Russian blacklists) and plenty of countries won't agree with that. So there will always be escape routes as long as you're physically outside of the US.

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whatshisface on Jan 4, 2021 | root | parent | next [–]


>If the entire world will bend under US regulations and will respect their white-lists and black-lists, it might be an issue.

You should read about US sanctions, that's actually pretty close to the truth. Living outside of US jurisdiction means... living in Russia, AFAIK.

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You know that it takes some USD cents and a couple of network confirmations to transfer any asset to a different wallet, right?

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virgilp on Jan 4, 2021 | parent [–]


Come on. It also takes a couple of USD cents (per operation) for the government to automatically blacklist all wallets that "touched" (received any amount of transfer from) a blacklisted walled. The great advantage of BTC is that the ledger is public...

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frankenst1 on Jan 5, 2021 | root | parent | next [–]


Blacklisting addresses based on where they received money from doesn't make any sense. Blacklisted wallets can just send microcents (dust) to whitelisted wallets, which would now have to be blacklisted as well.

You can make it illegal to use Bitcoin, but it was designed to make it practically impossible to enforce such a ban.

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virgilp on Jan 5, 2021 | root | parent | next [–]


You just need to modify the rule a little bit.

"If you transact with these blacklisted wallets, your wallet also automatically becomes blacklisted, and if we find you then you go to jail. As an exception - if you receive any amount of BTC from a blacklisted walled, you have 7 days to send the same amount (or greater) to [this government wallet] and that will erase all your legal liability and make your wallet whitelisted again. We can even automate the process for you if you trust us enough to give us your wallet keys. Alternatively, register email/phone numbers with us and we'll notify you when your wallet is blacklisted, and tell you how much BTC you should pay us"

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Erlich_Bachman on Jan 6, 2021 | root | parent | next [–]


So people need to watch all their wallets every 7 days? What if it's a cold storage wallet that is 2of3 signature protected and signatories are in different countries? What if you go on several weeks vacation? What if it's in a vault along with your gold, are you going to walk to the bank every week, open the vault, load the keys, then export them to some other cold storage? What if you have a virus that makes you have to restore large chunks of your infrastructure from backups that takes longer than a week? This is simply ridiculous. What you propose is just not realistic, no one who deals with crypto often will ever think that this is a solution.

> We can even automate the process for you if you trust us enough to give us your wallet keys.

Haha seriously? Your solution is that people give their private keys to the government? You must have no experience with crypto or what it's about it all. Nor really experience with how the government works and how often it gets corrupt. A corrupt clerk now is a small nuissance, a corrupt clerk in your proposed scenario means that thousands of addresses get stolen of all of their tokens. There is zero chance that this scenario will ever be implemented in any meaningful way.

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Erlich_Bachman on Jan 5, 2021 | root | parent | prev [–]


So it would be enough to send any amount to any public wallet to make it blacklisted and additionally also make SWAT teams come to the owners of those accounts? Yeah "good idea" /s. You know there is no way to prevent receiving bitcoins right?

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FAQs

What happens when a wallet is blacklisted? ›

Blacklisting allows a cryptocurrency network to prevent specific individuals or entities from accessing or using the currency. This can be useful in preventing fraud, scams, and other illegal activities.

How do crypto wallets get blacklisted? ›

Usually, scammers often blacklist wallet addresses that hold large amounts of tokens or coins (whales) so its act like all run in normally, but its not. The other scheme is after reaching a certain market cap, the scammer will blacklist all the wallet address and then they rug it.

Can Bitcoin wallets be blacklisted? ›

Bitcoin addresses cannot be actively blocked by the protocol itself, but cryptocurrency exchanges can block an account associated with a particular address in compliance with regulations.

How long do you stay blacklisted? ›

If you are blacklisted, it will be very difficult to get approved for new credit products. You may also be charged higher interest rates and fees if you are able to get approved. Blacklisting can stay on your credit report for up to seven years, making it hard to rebuild your credit.

Can you recover from being blacklisted? ›

Being blacklisted by the credit bureaus can derail your future plans. The good news is that it is possible to clear your name with the credit bureaus. It might not be an easy road ahead. However, it's worth it for your financial future if you can get yourself on the right side of the credit bureaus.

Can the government track your crypto wallet? ›

Yes, the government (and anyone else) can track Bitcoin and Bitcoin transactions. All transactions are stored permanently on a public ledger, available to anyone. All the government needs to do is link you to your wallet or transaction.

Can police trace crypto transactions? ›

A fundamental characteristic of blockchain technology is transparency, meaning that anyone, including the government, can observe all cryptocurrency transactions conducted via that blockchain.

Can you be tracked by your crypto wallet? ›

In any case, your crypto activity can always be tracked by anyone who wishes to. This is what makes crypto dealings transparent, but also publicizes all your transactions. Because of this, most crypto wallet addresses are considered to be pseudonymous, not anonymous.

How do I stop being blacklisted? ›

The National Credit Act (Act 34 of 2005) stipulates that if you were blacklisted and have paid the debt for which you were listed, you may apply to the credit bureau where you were listed to have your name removed from that list. This can be done by applying for the cancellation of that blacklisting.

What happens when your account is blacklisted? ›

What happens when you're blacklisted? Credit lenders see you as a higher risk and may either: Not approve your loan or credit application. Grant your loan application with a higher interest rate.

What can get you blacklisted? ›

A surefire way to get blacklisted from jobs is by exaggerating your work history or hiding any unfavorable information about your past. You may be tempted to conceal things that have the potential to paint you in a negative light, but the old adage is true: Honesty is the best policy.

Can police track my Bitcoin wallet? ›

The key to solving crypto crimes is tracking the address to the wallet then the wallet to the user. If police find the user, they can find the cash. Unfortunately, it is not that easy to find the user. First, the police will have to track the cryptocurrency address to a wallet.

What illegal transactions are using Bitcoin? ›

Main points. Cryptocurrency is not only restricted to cybercrime but is used for all types of crimes that involve the transmission of monetary value. This includes money laundering, financial sanctions evasions and other corruption related crimes such as bribery and embezzlement.

Can police seize a Bitcoin wallet? ›

Bitcoin seizure occurs when a law enforcement agency obtains the bitcoin address and private key of an individual or entity which violated the law. Sometimes the agency will target the exchange which hosts the wallet in question to seize a private key.

What are the consequences of being blacklisted? ›

At this point, a person is blacklisted, reflecting judgement granted. The consequences of being blacklisted are that credit providers will reject your loan application. In addition, being blacklisted negatively affects your credit score which might prevent you from getting any future credit.

What happens when you get blacklisted? ›

A blacklist is considered retaliatory as it is intended to create financial hardship for those named on the list, These lists can be created by different entities, including governments and individuals. Anyone who appears on a blacklist may be barred from getting funding, doing business, or getting jobs.

Can blacklisted be removed? ›

If you find that your IP or domain is blacklisted, contact each DNSBL service and request that they delete your listing. Some of them will automatically remove your listing after some buffer period, others will not.

Does blacklisted mean stolen? ›

Blacklisted phones are ineligible for cellular service because they have been reported as lost or stolen by the original owner, or because either the current or previous owner did not pay off the device after financing it with the manufacturer.

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