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Scotiabank refused to cash two GICs worth $1,500 each bought by Brian Pike in 1991. Bank officials said the institution had no record of the investments even though Pike has the original certificates, which matured in 1992. With interest, Pike is owed $3,240.

'They're kicking the small guy to the curb,' says Brian Pike of Langley, B.C.

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Brian Pike recently had what he thought was a pleasant surprise when hestumbled upon two decades-old guaranteed investment certificates (GICs), worth $1,500 eachas he was going through old files.

The 72-year-old bought the GICsfrom Scotiabank in 1991— one for his then-16-year-old daughter Laura and one for his then-12-year-old son Adam.

"It was when I was unpacking boxes that had some documents in them andI lookedand wonderedwhat the heck is that," Pike said while holding the folded 28-year-old certificates now covered in dust marks.

But the pleasant surprise took an unpleasant turn when Scotiabanktold Pikeit had no record of the GICs and declined to cashthem orpay him the $240interest earned on the one-year investments,for a total of $3,240.

The certificates includeserial numbers, imprints of their value and a teller's stamp.

No record of GICs

When Pike found the GICs in July, he says hetook them to the closest Scotiabankand talked to the branch manager, who told him she would get back to him in a week after talking to bank officials in Toronto.

Three weeks later, when he had heard nothing, Pike says he returned to the bank only to find out the original manager had been replaced by anew manager who knew nothing about theold GICs.

After another week-long wait, Pike was told by the branch manager thatScotiabank had no record of the certificatesand therefore they couldn't be redeemed.

"I said, look these are financial instruments. Of course, they're redeemable. It's like cash," said Pike, who was then referred to Scotiabankheadquartersin Toronto.

On August 25, Pike wrote a long email detailing his predicament.

"The email address was 'office of the president',"said Pike."But it's just a front for their customer relations."

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After several email exchanges and at least one phone call, Scotiabank'smanager of customer concerns wrote to Pike on Oct. 10 to say the bank wouldn't redeem the GICsbecause it had no record of them.

According to the bank, when the GICs reached maturity, Pike would have been contacted for disbursem*nt or reinvestment instructions,and if the GICs were still on the books of Scotiabank, T5 tax slips would have been issued for the interest earned.

Scotiabank said a search going back several years was conductedand no tax slips were located.

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"They didn't have any paper on it but I have the paper," said an angry Pike, who is fully employed and has a good credit record.

"I have the certificates."

CBC steps in

Pike was referred to the Scotiabank ombudsman but he contacted CBCinstead.

"I think they're kicking the small guy to the curb here," said Pike, calling the entire situation mind-boggling.

"I can't believe that they've been that ignorant with what is essentially a legal contract."

Less than 24 hours after CBC reached out to Scotiabank, Pike received a phone call from the Toronto office of the bank telling him the GICs would be redeemed and he would be paid the eight per cent interest that was accrued before the investments matured in 1992.

There was no explanation of why the GICs were nothonoured in the first place.

The bank representative did, however, apologize that the matter had gone to this length.

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Pike says his first call after talking to the bank was to his children, who responded to the news with surprise.

Scotiabanktold CBC in an emailit has connected with "the individual"and resolved the matter to his satisfaction.

Cracks in technological change

The almost 30-year-old GICs were issued at a time when financial institutions, at best, likely used floppy discs to store information, according to CCEC Credit Union general manager Denis Flinn.

Technology used by banks has come a long way since then, said Flinn, but along the way clerical errors related to moving from paper to digital may have occurred.

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It's entirely plausible, he said,that an institution with multiple operating systems acquired over several decades failed to scan something or failed to make a renewal call.

The burden of proof, said Flinn, lies with the institution.

"This person [Pike] is holding a GIC physically, which used to be the gold standard of proof," said Flinn.

The bank, he said, has to ask itself what compelling evidence it has to the contrary.

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Scotiabank refuses to honour forgotten GICs until CBC steps in | CBC News? ›

Scotiabank refused to cash two GICs worth $1,500 each bought by Brian Pike in 1991. Bank officials said the institution had no record of the investments even though Pike has the original certificates, which matured in 1992.

Can I break GIC from Scotiabank? ›

You can cash in Scotia Cashable GICs at any time. However, if you redeem your Scotia Cashable GIC before the completion of 30 calendar days from the issue date (inclusive), no interest will be paid. You may contact us to cancel Cashable GICs up to 14 calendar days following the issue date.

How long does Scotia Bank GIC take? ›

Your request will be processed within five (5) business days from the date we receive it.

How does GIC work Scotiabank? ›

A guaranteed investment certificate (GIC) is a secure, low-risk investment that guarantees 100% of your original principal while earning annual interest at a fixed or variable rate based on a specific formula.

How to change GIC renewal instructions scotiabank? ›

Click the View maturity details link to change the maturity instruction for the GIC that you wish to renew. This will take you to the Investment details – GIC page. In this page you have the option to either renew the GIC or cash it out to your Investment account upon maturity.

What happens if you break a non-redeemable GIC? ›

If they are non-redeemable, your financial institution may not allow you to cash them in early, and if they do, you may have to pay a penalty and/or lose interest on your investment.

Is it possible to break a non-redeemable GIC? ›

Non-redeemable GICs are considered “locked in”. Generally, you can't pull your money out of a non-redeemable GIC without being penalized for doing so (it's at the discretion of the bank if they will even let you break the agreement).

How to get a GIC refund from Scotiabank after refusal? ›

Open the Scotiabank GIC Refund Application. Read and accept the terms and conditions for refund and click on Continue. In the next step, fill in your details in the form given by the bank. After filling up all the details, submit your application form.

How do I get my GIC money back at Scotiabank? ›

THE PROCESS You can complete the Refund Application online – available here. You will be required to provide details such as your Scotiabank Investment Account number, your wire return bank account details and, if applicable, your original case number and the reason you are requesting a refund.

Can I withdraw full GIC before maturity Scotiabank? ›

Redemption: Scotiabank Personal Redeemable GICs can be partially or fully redeemed prior to maturity at a reduced interest rate according to your Early Redemption Rate Schedule in the Investment Directions Form.

Which Canadian bank has the highest GIC rate? ›

The Best GIC Rates Currently Available in Canada
  • Hubert Financial and Ideal Savings – 5.25% (1-year)
  • EQ Bank – 5.35% (1-year)
  • Saven Financial – 5.40% (1-year)
  • Peoples Trust Bank of Canada – 5.35% (1-year)
  • Achieva, Motive and Outlook Financial – 5.00% (1-year)
  • Wealth One Bank of Canada – 5.35% (1-year)

What is the best GIC rate at Scotiabank? ›

Current GIC rates at Scotiabank*
TermGIC TypeRate
180 to269 daysShort-term non-redeemable3.25%
270 to 364 daysShort-term non-redeemable3.55%
1 yearRegular cashable3.00%
1 yearLong-term non-redeemable compounded annually4.50%
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Who has 5% GIC rates? ›

Canadian GIC rates comparison
Provider1-year GIC5-year GIC
ICICI Bank Canada GICs5.00%4.50%
Ideal Savings5.25%4.50%
LBC Digital GICs5.00%4.50%
MCAN Wealth GICs5.50%4.75%
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Do GICs automatically renew scotiabank? ›

All Non-Redeemable GICs are available as part of a registered or Non-Registered investment portfolio, and can be automatically renewed on maturity.

Does a GIC automatically renew? ›

A Guaranteed Investment Certificate (GIC) is an investment made for a limited term such as 6 months, 1 year, 2 years or up to 10 years. The term ends on the maturity date. Generally, GICs renew automatically unless you inform your institution prior to its renewal.

Can I add money to an existing GIC? ›

You can't contribute to an existing GIC.

Can I withdraw full GIC before maturity at Scotiabank? ›

Redemption: Scotiabank Personal Redeemable GICs can be partially or fully redeemed prior to maturity at a reduced interest rate according to your Early Redemption Rate Schedule in the Investment Directions Form.

Can you break a GIC before maturity? ›

Cashable or redeemable GICs – You can cash them in early, before the maturity date, without paying a penalty. Regular GICs – You will likely have to pay a charge or penalty for taking your money out early. Even if you only need some of your money, you might have to take it all out.

What is the penalty for cancelling a GIC? ›

You have the right to cancel a renewed GIC within 10 business days from the issuance (renewal) date, and if you do, your principal will be returned, but no interest will apply from the issuance to the cancellation date. Some GICs can be transferred to a new owner, others cannot be.

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