Money Humanity You: New Systems Of Wealth Through TARTLE (2024)

February 19, 2022

Money Humanity You: New Systems Of Wealth Through TARTLE (1)

BY:TARTLE

Have you ever felt like you could dedicate yourself to a cause that would span generations? It could be anything: a business, an infrastructure, even an idea. If you have, then you’re one of the lucky few.

If you haven’t, consider why you don’t have the time, energy, or money to put into finding your passion. When you are working a regular 9-to-5 and still struggling to make ends meet on a day to day basis, thinking long-term can seem nonsensical.

That’s what living under our current economic system does to us. Why bother coming up with any energy for multigenerational thought and purpose when the here and now is taking up all that space?

In this episode, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby highlight the importance of eliminating the middleman in wealth creation—and how you can use the TARTLE Marketplace to sell your data.

It’s Time to Take Control of Your Data

Currently, the methods we use to source data are unreliable. We don’t know where it’s from, who’s touched it, and whether it is ethically sourced. There is an urgent need for a data marketplace that can facilitate the exchange of information in a transparent and accessible manner.

In addition, people on the ground like us don’t realize the potential of taking control of our data because the default is to just give it away to big tech companies on a regular basis. Yes, your personal information is being tracked and sold by your favorite social media and e-commerce sites. Now, we dare to ask the question: are you ready for the opportunity to profit from your data? Your personal thought processes and life experiences?

With TARTLE, this is possible. As a seller, you can transact directly with organizations that you believe in so that you have unmediated access to further that cause. The Marketplace is currently capable of ingesting satellite data, data from your Apple Watch, and more.

In the future, we’re working on expanding into other data sets for a more personalized experience. Imagine a world where you, and only you, have the power to sell data from your bank accounts, ancestry accounts, genetic code, health records, and audio information. At first glance, it looks like a massive responsibility—but doesn’t it also sound liberating? To know that you are at the forefront of data management?

Stop relying on a middle man when it comes to your information when you can have buyers get that data directly from you.

Bring Back Humanity in Wealth Creation

In the grand scheme of evolutionary development, the habit of creating wealth can only be cultivated when people are driven to seek these opportunities. The CEO of TARTLE, Alexander McCaig, shares in this episode how he actually grew up poor. Part of TARTLE’s mission is to help alleviate those in poverty. We know that we can make this happen when we give those in marginalized communities access to the tools and learning experiences they need to grow.

The devastating reality is that our current system takes away the humanity aspect of wealth creation. One example discussed in the episode was how winemakers may feel pressured to cut corners just to keep up with demand. This includes adding water to their wine, using cheaper produce, tampering with fermentation time, and more. In the long run, they continue to maintain an image of high quality while interfering with the true potential of their product.

With TARTLE, we want to help you rediscover humanity. These old systems are slowly detaching us from the reality of what is occurring. So we want you to challenge yourself to reattach to human beings. Create real relationships. Help people create real value in their lives by realizing your value in yourself. In the long run, choosing TARTLE is choosing to support the world.

What’s your data worth? Sign up for the TARTLE Marketplace through the link here.

Summary

Money Humanity You: New Systems Of Wealth Through TARTLE (2)

Title

Money, Humanity, You: New Systems of Wealth Through TARTLE

Description

In this episode, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby highlight the importance of eliminating the middleman in wealth creation—and how you can use the TARTLE Marketplace to sell your data.

Tags: Data Marketplace, Data Source, Money, Society

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For those who are hard of hearing – the episode transcript can be read below:

TRANSCRIPT

Alexander McCaig (00:10):
Multitasking, pouring the coffee-

Jason Rigby (00:13):
Some french press coffee.

Alexander McCaig (00:14):
And talking at the same time. I will give it to the French-

Jason Rigby (00:16):
This is espresso.

Alexander McCaig (00:17):
This and the Louvre are the two things they've done right for me.

Jason Rigby (00:22):
The Louvre.

Alexander McCaig (00:23):
Le Louvre.

Jason Rigby (00:25):
I was watching a Netflix show where they were busting into the Louvre. They were stealing a painting. It was really cool.

Alexander McCaig (00:33):
Stealing? Which painting?

Jason Rigby (00:34):
I wonder how often that they... Oh, it was just some painting. This guy wanted to get back. It's called Lupin or something like that. It's a French show.

Alexander McCaig (00:40):
Oh, Lupin. Yeah. Great show. Watched it. They have a second season out now.

Jason Rigby (00:44):
Oh, do they?

Alexander McCaig (00:44):
Yeah, they do.

Jason Rigby (00:45):
Oh, I'll have to watch that.

Alexander McCaig (00:46):
You know what's disappointing for me?

Jason Rigby (00:48):
What?

Alexander McCaig (00:48):
The Mona Lisa.

Jason Rigby (00:51):
Because there're no eyebrows?

Alexander McCaig (00:52):
No, it's so small.

Jason Rigby (00:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Alexander McCaig (00:54):
I had seen it in all these movies and stuff. I'm like, "Wow, the thing's got to be big." You see the Mona Lisa, but then you turn around and it's like you got the Coronation of Napoleon, which is 40 feet tall, 100 feet wide, guy painted it from-

Jason Rigby (01:06):
Or you go to the Sistine Chapel and you look up and you're like, "Holy sh*t."

Alexander McCaig (01:09):
Yeah, like Michelangelo? Nailed it. You know what I mean? But I don't know. What have you.

Jason Rigby (01:13):
That's something I thought about the other day, just a quick tangent.

Alexander McCaig (01:16):
Is there an NFT on the Mona Lisa?

Jason Rigby (01:17):
No, how this economy has destroyed multi-generational thought. Even now in Barcelona, you still have the great... I forgot the... No, I know.

Alexander McCaig (01:29):
Come on. Come on.

Jason Rigby (01:29):
The cathedral there. But I mean, they're still working on it. They've been working on it for... It's so beautiful. It looks alien. I think it was... Well, I don't want to get on.

Alexander McCaig (01:38):
I'm looking it up right now. I have no idea. It just says "Cathedral Barcelona." I have no idea.

Jason Rigby (01:43):
Yeah. But when you look at the inside pictures, it's not of this world.

Alexander McCaig (01:48):
No, no, it's not. That's amazing.

Jason Rigby (01:51):
So there was an idea that it would pass on from family to family to family, that the work would be multi-generational.

Alexander McCaig (01:59):
It's cool.

Jason Rigby (02:00):
You know what I mean? They had that long-term mentality and that's gone in our current economic situation.

Alexander McCaig (02:07):
You ready? Why is it that we all have babies, we procreate, pass things on genetically, but our economy has no genetics baked into it? There's no natural growth, evolution or development that sits within it. They created this leaky system that in no way, shape or form is bound by how nature works. Why would you create something that goes against the natural flow of nature? It will never work for humans ever, if you do not respect the thing that even gives us life.

Jason Rigby (02:36):
It's the same with farming practices.

Alexander McCaig (02:39):
Does that make sense?

Jason Rigby (02:39):
I mean, it's the same thing. We can look at regenerative farming and we can see that that works. It's proven. They've had farms that have been in existence for 60, 70 years of regenerative farming and its works. Can you scale it? That's the question.

Alexander McCaig (02:52):
I don't know.

Jason Rigby (02:52):
I don't know. Could you scale it across the world? I have no idea. But that's something that needs to be worked on and see. And Bill Gates owns most of the farming land in the United States.

Alexander McCaig (03:00):
He owns a lot of farmland.

Jason Rigby (03:03):
There needs to be some regenerative farming.

Alexander McCaig (03:05):
Yeah, and like personal farms, not farms for animal feed. So 70% of the farm land in the United States goes to animal feed.

Jason Rigby (03:14):
Or soy or corn.

Alexander McCaig (03:18):
And then 40% of that 70% goes towards feeding human beings. So it's like, what?

Jason Rigby (03:29):
Where you wouldn't need that, regenerative farming... Let's say people won't stop eating meat, and so we're just going to have people eating meat. With regenerative farming it works. Pigs, cows, all of it works in regenerative farming because it replaces and there's a process and the soil actually gets better.

Alexander McCaig (03:45):
What was that thing? It was in Star Trek. It starts with an E, like electron duplicator or something like that.

Jason Rigby (03:52):
But don't you think that once we get fake meat that tastes... If you could go buy a $100 steak at a fancy steakhouse and it tastes amazing, and then you could recreate that steak exactly, people will buy that fake steak that tastes like the $100 steak?

Alexander McCaig (04:11):
And all the bad stuff removed out of it?

Jason Rigby (04:12):
Yeah. Hopefully, yeah.

Alexander McCaig (04:13):
Sure. Well, if you're engineering it, you can pull any of the bad stuff out of it.

Jason Rigby (04:17):
Yeah. Then why wouldn't people buy that?

Alexander McCaig (04:19):
Yeah, we wouldn't need-

Jason Rigby (04:20):
I think that's the future.

Alexander McCaig (04:21):
It is the future. We don't need cow-

Jason Rigby (04:23):
And then we're not going to be killing.

Alexander McCaig (04:24):
Do you know what I found out at the store? I guess we're just riffing on this episode for a second. So I'm shopping over at Sprouts. They started out in Arizona, but they're here local in the area. They sell seaweed, frozen seaweed. Large things of kelp that I can just go and buy. It's $10 and I get four packs of a ton of seaweed. Seaweed-

Jason Rigby (04:46):
Is one of the most nutrient dense.

Alexander McCaig (04:47):
It's super nutrient dense. It carries all these vitamins and minerals for me. Tons of chlorophyll. It also takes methyl mercury out of the ocean. It reduces the amount of acidity in those waters, and it's infinitely available through sunlight and it's grown in cold water, so it requires no energy to... It's just a sun baking down and you just go grab it. Why aren't we eating more of that?

Jason Rigby (05:11):
Yeah. And why can't we recreate that?

Alexander McCaig (05:15):
I know.

Jason Rigby (05:16):
I mean, we can make seaweed steaks that taste amazing.

Alexander McCaig (05:18):
That's what I'm talking about. All we got to do is change a couple little things with how the electrons are floating around in the seaweed to change the flavor.

Jason Rigby (05:25):
So I want to get into, speaking of that, just changing a few things and getting into something that makes it amazing, and that's good for you. I want to get into what you can sell on TARTLE, now what you can sell and then how the future looks for TARTLE, and why we're so excited about the future.

Alexander McCaig (05:44):
Things you can sell right now. TARTLE has the ability to ingest any type of data. It doesn't matter where it is. I don't care if it's satellite data, if it's data that comes off of your Apple Watch, what have you. At this moment, you can sell data that comes from your bank accounts. You can sell data that comes from your ancestry accounts, so any of your ancestry stuff, so if somebody wants to research on it. You can sell your genetic code on TARTLE. Pretty cool. First people ever to do that, right there on TARTLE. You can sell your health records. You can sell photos, you can sell audio information. And in the future, we'll be able to sell anything beyond that. You'll be able to sell a podcast episode. You'll be able to your dating information. Maybe you want to find new people. Maybe a seller wants to go on there and maybe find another seller, buy people that buy information off of people's profiles. "Oh, your local in this area, maybe this will work." Maybe people are more willing to share.

Alexander McCaig (06:54):
In the future you'll be able to sell data that's streaming down from satellite. They have their own function and file system and everything else that goes with it.

Jason Rigby (07:01):
Well, let's stay with that. This is interesting, the dating aspect, because I think this is really important. You could go in there and say, "I want it to be only in Bolivia, in this certain city, and I'm willing to pay for someone that wants a date. Here's a picture of me. Here's what I look like physically. But more important, I want to understand the emotional and mental aspect."

Alexander McCaig (07:29):
You can buy that.

Jason Rigby (07:30):
You see what I'm saying?

Alexander McCaig (07:32):
Yeah.

Jason Rigby (07:32):
So you can have them fill out some information.

Alexander McCaig (07:35):
So first of all, you choose your demographic. "I'm going to go to Bolivia. I want this biological sex, I want this gender, and this data packet that has this information, because that's what's important to me." And maybe it has the person's contact information within that. You can go by that. As a data seller, if you want to spend some of your data earnings on that, you can go do so.

Jason Rigby (07:58):
But how valuable... Here's what I'm thinking. So let's say you put out like a two page about not just about you, but a two page questionnaire about some of the things that you value the most, and then some of the things that they think that they should value and then they could rate it and scale it.

Alexander McCaig (08:13):
That's super cool.

Jason Rigby (08:14):
And then how much is that dated worth to you? If somebody was interested in you, if they saw a picture in a bio-

Alexander McCaig (08:20):
Maybe you find the love of your life.

Jason Rigby (08:21):
If somebody was interested in that and then they took the time to show interest enough to fill all this out, that's not just swiping right, swiping left really quick and just going off the physical. That's going off the mental. You could put spiritual questions in there. You can do whatever you want, free market.

Alexander McCaig (08:37):
Oh yeah. You can go wild. You're not limited to dating apps anymore. It's free now. It's a free market. You can get in there and you can learn whatever you need to learn. And you know what the value of that? You may spend 10 cents giving that information. But you could find someone you spend the rest of your life with.

Jason Rigby (08:53):
Yes, exactly. I mean, it's just one example. Let's go. Let's use another example.

Alexander McCaig (08:57):
You don't don't have to wait for a dating app to put a new type of questionnaire. No, you can do it yourself right now.

Jason Rigby (09:02):
Let's say you're a digital artist.

Alexander McCaig (09:04):
Ooh, yay. You want to sell our work?

Jason Rigby (09:06):
And you create masterpiece.

Alexander McCaig (09:07):
You want to sell your NFT information?

Jason Rigby (09:07):
Yes.

Alexander McCaig (09:08):
Go for it. Put it on TARTLE. These are things in the future we will be able to sell. We can ingest any type of information and encrypt it for you.

Jason Rigby (09:18):
Let's say I'm an author and I want to sell my book.

Alexander McCaig (09:24):
No problem. You can put the whole manuscript on there and sell it to the world. Skip Amazon. What you hear. "Jason, why would you want to have the middle man take your money?" The whole thing about this, you can cut out all those people creating all that waste, being leaches off the system, people leaching off of your work. Just have them get it directly from you. Get all the value for your work.

Jason Rigby (09:47):
Let say you are somebody that does... We'll just use an example. Maybe you have a talent of being a macro investor and you love to collect information and you want to have a newsletter and sell that information monthly.

Alexander McCaig (10:00):
Okay. Well then you can go do your own primary research. How cool is that? So you go into TARTLE and you run your own little fund or whatever you're doing yourself and you got a group of friends, and you want to get a thing out there. You want to be the new Motley Full or whatever that is called.

Jason Rigby (10:17):
That's yeah, exactly.

Alexander McCaig (10:18):
Go buy all your data. Put together your... Oh, you can sell your report also?

Jason Rigby (10:23):
Yeah.

Alexander McCaig (10:23):
Oh cool.

Jason Rigby (10:24):
That's what I'm saying.

Alexander McCaig (10:24):
So me as an individual could go in here, buy a bunch of data from people, write a report and then sell my report.

Jason Rigby (10:29):
But the report is on the blockchain.

Alexander McCaig (10:30):
That's the cool part.

Jason Rigby (10:32):
And everything's recorded.

Alexander McCaig (10:33):
So we're going to know that you in fact are the person with the providence. That information came from TARTLE. First and foremost, there is a record that data happened here on this marketplace. And if you were to get something, someone gives you something from the outside and it doesn't have that stamp on it, don't touch it. You don't want that information. Who knows who's seen it? What have you, it wasn't ethically sourced, you'll know and feel good about what you're doing by buying and selling things on the TARTLE marketplace.

Jason Rigby (11:02):
Well, I mean, and that's why non fungible tokens are the same thing, because there's proof of authenticity.

Alexander McCaig (11:09):
I know for a fact that this NFT was sold at this point, done.

Jason Rigby (11:14):
And we have that.

Alexander McCaig (11:16):
There's a record that everybody can test against to see that happened here on TARTLE, and the person was fairly compensated for it.

Jason Rigby (11:21):
So one more example, because we could do this f*cking all day long-

Alexander McCaig (11:25):
Like all day.

Jason Rigby (11:27):
And I don't want to bore people, but you're a musician.

Alexander McCaig (11:28):
Humans, sorry.

Jason Rigby (11:30):
Yeah, humans.

Alexander McCaig (11:30):
We could tag-

Jason Rigby (11:31):
We create, it's whatever we create.

Alexander McCaig (11:32):
We could tag our children and say that my child is here on TARTLE. My profile of my child is here. If a school wants to come in and get kids for their academy, they want to buy data. It's like is this child is going to be a good fit? The parent could go in there and be like, "Here's the profile stuff. I want my kid to go to a good school. You can pay us for it."

Jason Rigby (11:57):
Let me give you one. This is a fun one. Are you ready?

Alexander McCaig (11:59):
Go ahead. Yeah.

Jason Rigby (11:59):
Okay. Mr. Billionaire, millionaire, multimillionaire. You want to help climate stability? You want to help educational access? Sell your Bitcoin key on TARTLE.

Alexander McCaig (12:09):
Smoke. That's awesome.

Jason Rigby (12:11):
And then donate that earnings-

Alexander McCaig (12:12):
All the earnings.

Jason Rigby (12:14):
To one of the biggest causes of humanity, because that's what you can do on the TARTLE marketplace.

Alexander McCaig (12:20):
You can do that. How cool is that?

Jason Rigby (12:22):
How much? And let's say you have... If there's four and a half billion people on the TARTLE marketplace and you have two million in Bitcoin and you put that key to sell that key on the TARTLE marketplace, you have the potential, if everybody gave 50 cents or 25 cents to hopefully get the key, you have potential to raise billions of dollars for-

Alexander McCaig (12:43):
And you could just choose-

Jason Rigby (12:44):
Climate stability, for educational access, for economic equalization.

Alexander McCaig (12:49):
For all the bids you get in for it, you just choose when it random like a lottery and sell it off. But all those other earnings, you just put that towards an [inaudible 00:12:59].

Jason Rigby (12:59):
That's so much better to help humanity than anything else that you could do with... See, it just eliminates some middle man. Like not-for-profits. We have the ability to be able to have NGOs and not-for-profits and they can sign up. And then whether you're a place that we helped in the Philippines that helps abandon dogs and hurt dogs.

Alexander McCaig (13:20):
Or Children of Asia.

Jason Rigby (13:21):
Or Children of Asia or whatever it may be, you have the potential to be able to go in there and do work, and give those earnings to that. So it's not just about making money. It's more than that.

Alexander McCaig (13:34):
It's about sharing, uplifting, empowering, educating. We can all die wealthy and we can all die poor. It doesn't do anything for us as human beings. When you come out of the womb, if someone's pouring gold coins on you to balloons, you're just like swimming in it like little elephant baby, does that do anything for the baby? Is it actually enriching that baby's understanding of life itself?

Jason Rigby (14:01):
Well, they said... So I was listening to an evolutionary psychologist the other day on podcast and he's known for child development stuff. He says it's actually worse. Through the studies, they followed like generational, when you give a child everything, it's actually the children that do the best are the ones that's had trauma.

Alexander McCaig (14:19):
They have to work.

Jason Rigby (14:20):
And that can learn from it.

Alexander McCaig (14:21):
They have to work.

Jason Rigby (14:21):
Because trauma will do those two things to you. It's a 50/50 shot. It can you up for the rest of your life.

Alexander McCaig (14:26):
Or it can catalyze you.

Jason Rigby (14:26):
Or it can catalyze you to go be great.

Alexander McCaig (14:29):
Correct.

Jason Rigby (14:29):
I mean, Elon Musk was super poor. If you want to use him as an example.

Alexander McCaig (14:33):
He was super poor.

Jason Rigby (14:33):
Yeah. So the list goes on and on.

Alexander McCaig (14:35):
You just got... It's like you can either wallow around or you can just pull yourself up and be like, "Let's get to work."

Jason Rigby (14:42):
So I want to compare investing in TARTLE, for investors that are out there that may be listening to this, with REITs and NFTs. So I think this is really interesting because let's say you're in real estate investment, or let's say it's stocks. So these are assets. I'm purchasing assets. So I want to purchase these assets. Why would I invest in TARTLE over a [Reid 00:15:11], over buying shares of Google or Facebook or metaverse or whatever?

Alexander McCaig (15:14):
Those are all systems. You could be buying all that stuff. It's a system based on centralization, lack of sovereignty, and it's completely dominated by interest rates and inflation. Hands down. It's a corrupt, ill working system over there. But if you put your money in TARTLE, you're betting on human beings to share information, to evolve together, to uplift one another in something that doesn't have a barrier to entry, that is always evolving, always growing, always increasing in value, because there's always work being put in. Just because money goes into a stock in the S&P 500 doesn't actually generate work. It's just changing values on a piece of paper. It doesn't actually elevate human understanding. It doesn't solve problems. So if you're going to invest in something, invest in a system that is truly evolutive, not one that's leaking like a sieve based on bad fundamentals.

Jason Rigby (16:07):
Well, it's also silly to... You look at, it's silly because you look at Google and the billions of dollars that they've made, and they've made investors, because I'm talking on the vesting scenario. And they just came up with a better algorithm for search and then continued to evolve in that. They also said, "Oh, okay, well in this search we can run ads." And that's their model.

Alexander McCaig (16:32):
Yeah. But DARPA came out with a jet propulsion lab that became a thing called Memex. Its ability to search things multi-dimensionally blows Google out of the water, but it's not used. But Google comes out with a slightly enhanced algorithm to deliver more ads to people. Who cares, so that the information can still be piped through the servers or the NSA?

Jason Rigby (16:53):
But, it's so silly to look at, "Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to find the next Google." You found something that's 10x more, it's 100x more, 1,000x more.

Alexander McCaig (17:04):
1,000x. You found, you what you found? You found humanity. For the first time there's a glimmer of hope. There's a glimmer of truth that you have found, and that's in people. Everything you've been betting on are these old systems for people that really are detached from the reality of what is occurring. Attach yourself to human beings. Create a real relationship. Help people create real value in their lives.

Jason Rigby (17:35):
Uplift humanity.

Alexander McCaig (17:36):
Support the world. Well, you can make yourself rich all day long, great. But if you're not helping someone feed themself, if you're not helping decrease the ocean level rise, if you're not doing that, you're not really doing much.

Jason Rigby (17:51):
Crime. I mean, and we talked about this before, the economic incentive of crime is important, and so when you're following these old incentives, you're increasing crime.

Alexander McCaig (18:00):
How many people are pushed to do illegal things because of the way that system's designed?

Jason Rigby (18:05):
Well, how many companies are going to do that? So if I have inflation and it's rising, my profit margins are going less. I've heard an example the other day on this. This guy was talking about, this is great, he said, "If I'm making a bottle of wine."

Alexander McCaig (18:17):
I love wine.

Jason Rigby (18:18):
Yeah. I know. Yeah, he said, "If I'm making a bottle of wine." You love wine like I love coffee. "But if I'm making a bottle of wine, and all of a sudden because supply chain issues, the cost of the grapes go up, the cost of the bottle goes up."

Alexander McCaig (18:31):
Climate goes up, soil's bad.

Jason Rigby (18:32):
Climate goes up.

Alexander McCaig (18:33):
It's hard to get them.

Jason Rigby (18:34):
So on top of that, I have corks are hard to get. They're double in price.

Alexander McCaig (18:38):
Glass shortage.

Jason Rigby (18:39):
Yeah, glass shortage. So then on top of that, I told my customers, it was going to be $25 a bottle of wine. My profit margin is really low. I'm making like $2-3 per bottle. Then all these costs hit me, these external cost. On top of that, I have inflation.

Alexander McCaig (18:54):
I'm really in the red.

Jason Rigby (18:56):
So I have an option.

Alexander McCaig (18:57):
Not red wine.

Jason Rigby (18:58):
I could raise the price of the bottle of wine for the same thing and risk losing customers, or maybe, here it is, maybe I could like use some cheaper product. Maybe I could add some water in there.

Alexander McCaig (19:10):
I could start cutting.

Jason Rigby (19:11):
You see what the old system causes companies to do?

Alexander McCaig (19:15):
Causes them to cut corners. Quality, it-

Jason Rigby (19:19):
Defrauds.

Alexander McCaig (19:19):
It degrades, defrauds, all those things. Bad things occur when people are pressed to do that because people naturally want to survive. They want to succeed. People don't want to fail. But the systems is so fragile, people will do anything to make it worse. And think about how embarrassed people become socially when they have this thing, that was their dream, and it fails because it's completely out of their control.

Jason Rigby (19:43):
Unless you're psychotic like that lady with the blood machine, so fascinating with.

Alexander McCaig (19:49):
I know, whatever.

Jason Rigby (19:49):
I'm so fascinated with that whole process.

Alexander McCaig (19:51):
But think about it though. Socially, people don't want to fail. It cripples people. The level of depression that comes in, which is one of the most prevalent things happening right now in the United States and so much that leads to suicide and inaction. There's so much economic loss because of depression. These things just... It becomes self-fulfilling prophecy.

Jason Rigby (20:08):
Well, yeah, you have mental health days now at work. People are taking time off from this and they're not able to work. They're debilitated. They're just at home smoking weed all day long, playing video games because they just feel like they don't have any incentive to go-

Alexander McCaig (20:19):
And why they smoke weed? They want to feel less because there's just constant nagging pain that they can't get out of. The world is inherently uncomfortable. The news makes them uncomfortable, their financial systems making them comfortable, their job, socially. All these things, people just don't want to deal with it. They can't escape it. They're inundated with these things.

Jason Rigby (20:41):
Social media. Yeah.

Alexander McCaig (20:41):
Work is not affording people the proper evolutive necessities that they require. Things are not respected properly. Sovereignty has been squandered for too long.

Jason Rigby (20:52):
But you know what's badass?

Alexander McCaig (20:54):
Tell me.

Jason Rigby (20:54):
Maybe you're really interested in helping start schools in Africa and you've always wanted to do that. That's just been like a burden on your heart. I'll use that terminology.

Alexander McCaig (21:04):
Share your data, donate the earnings to someone building the schools.

Jason Rigby (21:06):
You can do that right now.

Alexander McCaig (21:07):
You can do it right, the second.

Jason Rigby (21:08):
You don't want to... You know gratitude and giving and the expression of love in that format. I don't want to get two philosophical but the expression of love, that is the greatest thing to cure depression. You can take SSRIs and do all these other things that you want, buy these new tropic drugs. We always want to take a pill for something.

Alexander McCaig (21:28):
Microdose some mushrooms, whatever.

Jason Rigby (21:29):
But when you give out of your heart.

Alexander McCaig (21:32):
Talk about a dopamine hit.

Jason Rigby (21:33):
That cures it. And then you get that feeling of gratitude. That, even right now, I'm getting little tingles all over.

Alexander McCaig (21:40):
I know. That's because you got five or six neurochemical factors happening in your brain that are making you light up just at the thought of helping. And you can do that today.

Jason Rigby (21:49):
And you can be in Nigeria and do this. You can be in Canada.

Alexander McCaig (21:52):
You can be sitting on your house not going to work, smoking weed and still do this.

Jason Rigby (21:57):
100%.

Alexander McCaig (21:58):
Awesome. Do it.

Jason Rigby (21:59):
Yes, help humanity.

Alexander McCaig (22:00):
Help people. Feel good about it.

Jason Rigby (22:02):
Or maybe you do need some food to support your family.

Alexander McCaig (22:05):
Yeah, because you are in a pinch and you're having a hard time looking your husband or wife in the face saying, "I don't think I can make food work this week. I can't go to the grocery store." Those are not good scenarios. People shouldn't have to feel like that.

Jason Rigby (22:21):
And that's why the TARTLE marketplace is the answer to humanity, because we solve these issues.

Alexander McCaig (22:25):
We can solve it. You can actually get fairly compensated for the work you put in. No one will take it from you. It won't become worth less over time.

Jason Rigby (22:36):
Because what people don't realize is, and it will close in this. I want you to talk about this. What people don't realize is no matter how you want to make it agnostic, our being of who we are, our will in our self-preservation, we attach morals to everything that we spend money in. We may not realize it, but it's like if somebody's had a job that they know they're stealing from people. They can put it out of their head, but it's always this nag. There's a reason for that.

Alexander McCaig (23:12):
Yeah. You know what you're doing. There's some conscious awareness and you try to ignore it. It'll happen all the time. So if you want to help alleviate some of that mental pressure you've created, do some good. Do some good for you. Do some good for others. Will something into existence that needs to be there. Truly share. Become a part of the human element. Uplift others, faces of people you've never seen before, but directly help them. That's something that's truly going to help in this world. And then stop double dipping from the company books.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Thank you for listening to TARTLEcast with your hosts, Alexander McCaig and Jason Rigby, where humanity steps into the future and source data defines the path. What's your data worth?

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